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Maccy
 #1 
Hello,
can anyone tell me why I always have earache? Sometimes more painful then other times but always there? There is also always a feeling of "Fullness". I can't really think of another way to describe it. Like wanting the ears to pop from altitude? or the feeling you get from the bottom of a swimming pool. I find this very confusing as it doesn't follow the argument that the noise is from the Brain. I feel as though my ears are working very hard to produce this sound and therefore I get earache through over use!!

If anyone has any tips on trying to help this symptom I'd be very grateful to know.

Thanks

Mandy
zaltys
 #2 
can anyone tell me why I always have earache? ....There is also always a feeling of "Fullness"

Nine times out of ten it would be a problem with eustachian tubes. The basic mechanism is that the air in the middle ear gets absorbed into walls of the ear. if new air doesn't get in adequately to replace it then you get a vacuum forming in the middle ear which would be experienced as fullness and pressure, Have you seen an ear doctor recently?
winterbridge55
 #3 
Hi Mandy,

I have had tinnitus for 6 months but had never had an ear ache until about 1 month ago. It lasted days and I was miserable. My ENT put me on Klonopin because he thought that I could have a muscle spasm around the jaw joint. It was either a coincidence or he was spot on the diagnosis because the ear pain disappeared that very day I filled the prescription. I have come to find out that the jaw shares the same nerve as the ear and that the pain can be referred from the jaw to the ear. I have not had one episode of ear ache or ear fullness except for a fleeting pain here and there that disappears. It is not funny but coincidentally as I write this I am experiencing some ear pain and I think it has to do with eating an ear of corn. The jaw muscle works hard eating certain foods. I have a strong suspicion that I have multiple causes for my tinnitus. You may have a TMJ issue. I hope my story helps enlighten you on what possibly could be causing your pain. Mark
winterbridge55
 #4 
Mandy,

In no way am I advocating Klonopin as a way of dealing with your ear ache. I went searching for pain relief and it just so happened that this ENT gave me this medication. Perhaps a less drastic intervention might have been a muscle relaxant or anti inflammatory. I was also evaluated by my ENT and was found not to have eustachian tube dysfunction but I would get evaluated for both.
Maccy
 #5 
Hello, thank you for both replies.

I am actually due at hospital on Tuesday this week but it's to see a hearing therapist (as I need hearing aids) but I'll ask and see what she says anyway.

I have been checked for TMJ and they said everything was ok. I don't really fancy more drugs as I am on anti anxiety pills already and too many types can cause mayhem. I wonder if there is anything else that can releive the symptoms do you think?

Mandy
pt
 #6 
Mandy, "aural fullness" is a common symptom after noise injury. As far as I know, there is nothing that can be done about it.
winterbridge55
 #7 
Mandy,

Go to this health board and read the countless stories of people who have the same symtoms as yours. It might help.

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-106402.html
stringplayer
 #8 
Mandy posted:

can anyone tell me why I always have earache? Sometimes more painful then other times but always there? There is also always a feeling of "Fullness". I can't really think of another way to describe it. Like wanting the ears to pop from altitude? or the feeling you get from the bottom of a swimming pool.

...........

While I very much respect the efforts of others here to address your concern, Mandy, I personally do not believe that anybody can offer a responsible opinion in the absence of a complete ENT and audiological evaluation.  There are just too many possibilities - in my opinion.

sp
 #9 
Hi Mandy. 

I'd suggest that you discuss your symptoms with your doctor.  Aural fullness - as if someone had inflated a small balloon in your ear and left it there - is a common symptom of hyperacusis and sometimes of tinnitus.  Not sure what the pain is about or if the aural fullness is connected with it or not in your case.  Hang in there.  I know you've been having a tough couple weeks. 

Rob 
DrChip
 #10 
most common causes is a negative pressure in the middle ear, fluid in the middle ear, and/or an increase fluid pressure in the inner ear.

Testing, particularly tympanometry, is the first step in a differential diagnosis.  cb
Maccy
 #11 
Hello, thank you for all your replies.

Rob, yes I have had a couple of rough weeks. Getting better in my mood now so handling the T better as well. It's all a state of mind!

PT said that Aural Fullness was after a noise injury.... My T arrived due to stress after an operation and I don't have any noise injury so that's not the case here I don't think. But thank you anyway.

Dr. Chip,  yes I'll certainly get it checked out. If as Rob says it's a common symptom of Hyperacusis then I suppose I fall into that catagory as I have mild H. It has  settled down alot but I still have a low tolerance to certain sounds.

Oh my this is like a merry go round isn't it? First one thing and then another.  A big learning curve isn't it when it's very new. Trying to find explanations and answers for everything. Trying to understand and know it all !! Thank goodness for all you experienced people across the Pond!

Mandy
johnny
 #12 
"Hello,
can anyone tell me why I always have earache? Sometimes more painful then other times but always there? There is also always a feeling of "Fullness". I can't really think of another way to describe it. Like wanting the ears to pop from altitude? or the feeling you get from the bottom of a swimming pool. I find this very confusing as it doesn't follow the argument that the noise is from the Brain. I feel as though my ears are working very hard to produce this sound and therefore I get earache through over use!!

If anyone has any tips on trying to help this symptom I'd be very grateful to know."

Hi Mandy, I sympathise with your condition. I too have suffered greatly from aural 'fullness'. It got really bad about 3 weeks after I got noise induced T. I still have it but not as bad. I sometimes feel weird pressure changes inside my head and some stabbing pains. I have constant popping but mainly while speaking.

It has settled down but came back after a thunder storm I mentioned in another thread.

A pressure test revealed my eardrums move slowly.
To this day I still don't know whats going on in my ears and Ive been to several GPs on about 10 occasions. It remains a mystery. Will it resolve itself? Who knows
Maccy
 #13 
Hi Johnny,

Yes it's a complete mystery to me also. I have seen 3 top ENT surgeons privately and a couple on the NHS. I am seeing a hearing therapist tomorrow and she may give me more details about the hearing aids that I need and hopefully details about TRT. Which is the route I  think I'll follow if possible.

My GP had his own thoughts on the noise in my ear which i thought was quite interesting. He said that when we loose a small amount of hearing and we are straining to hear (which I do all the time), he said that there is a shortfall in what the ears cannot produce for the brain to "hear" so the brain tries to close the gap in the hearing by compensating with its own noise.

Now this might be absolute rubbish but he said the hearing aids may make up for that shortfall. We shall see, I certainly think they'll make my perception of outside sounds better so maybe the T won't seem so loud.

Do you have any hearing loss?

Mandy

Murasaki53
 #14 
Mandy posted:

He said that when we loose a small amount of hearing and we are straining to hear (which I do all the time), he said that there is a shortfall in what the ears cannot produce for the brain to "hear" so the brain tries to close the gap in the hearing by compensating with its own noise.

Now this might be absolute rubbish but he said the hearing aids may make up for that shortfall. We shall see, I certainly think they'll make my perception of outside sounds better so maybe the T won't seem so loud.

This is also what my well-regarded TRT practitioner suggested (I'm doing TRT with hearing aids but no white noise).

Maccy
 #15 
Mura,
may I ask how long you have worn the hearing aids for? Do you wear them all the time? And did you have any trouble getting used to them?

Because I have mild H, a low tolerance to some noises I was afraid that the hearing aids would amplify the noises like traffic etc. Am I right in thinking that they are set so that this is taken into account?

Mandy
Murasaki53
 #16 
I've worn them for a few months. But I don't wear them outside. I have to say that this is very much against the advice of my knowledgeable and well-respected TRT practitioner who insists that I should. It's just too scary for me to do that at the moment as I find the noise of the traffic I encounter on the way to work and the engine of one of the trains I have to catch to be too overpowering at present.

The hearing aids are digital and there's a little button on the bottom that can curtail some sound if need be.

I haven't had any other difficulties in getting used to them in the sense of being more self-conscious.
johnny
 #17 
I really wish someone could shed some more light on this?

If these are common syptoms of Tinnitus what is the cause or treatment?

I have noise induced T and ever since it started I've had off and on fullness/pressure/popping in my ears. Doctors have looked at the obvious stuff already like sinuses etc.

4 months down the line and I'm none the wiser!

Will I Neuro-otoligist be able to tell me?  A surgeon? An ENT surgeon? His mate? A hearing therapist? Her brother? Who?

I'm waiting for an MRI scan result but after that, I want to get to the bottom of it. Enough is enough.
Maccy
 #18 
Hi Johnny,

I feel a bit mystyfied with this symptom as well. I have just seen my hearing therapist and when I mentioned the fullness etc to her she asked if I had a cold. Well I don't, so she just thought again that it was all to do with the "over sensitivity" of the thoughts surrounding the ears. She said that when we develop T or H then everything we do and think about is to do with the ears. If we had these symptoms last year then we'd just shrug them off and forget about them. But as we have T then everything is magnified etc.

Now I understand her logical argument and I know it sounds good, but from where I'm sat, these symptoms are very real and sometimes I feel like sticking something in my ear and waiting for the HISSSSSS as the pressure is released! Madness I know but mine feel like they are going to POP with the prassure.

Mandy
johnny
 #19 
"Hi Johnny,

I feel a bit mystyfied with this symptom as well. I have just seen my hearing therapist and when I mentioned the fullness etc to her she asked if I had a cold. Well I don't, so she just thought again that it was all to do with the "over sensitivity" of the thoughts surrounding the ears. She said that when we develop T or H then everything we do and think about is to do with the ears. If we had these symptoms last year then we'd just shrug them off and forget about them. But as we have T then everything is magnified etc.

Now I understand her logical argument and I know it sounds good, but from where I'm sat, these symptoms are very real and sometimes I feel like sticking something in my ear and waiting for the HISSSSSS as the pressure is released! Madness I know but mine feel like they are going to POP with the prassure.

Mandy"

Hi Mandy,

I don't buy any of that I'm afraid. It sounds possible i guess but they're wrong.

My doctors don't have the answers, but at least the said they 'don't know'.

I want to find someone on the planet that DOES KNOW!!!!!!!!

Im prepared to go under the knife just to find out what's wrong my ears!
Maccy
 #20 
Johnny,

Do you have just Tinnitus or H as well? Going under the knife would be a bit drastic don't you think? A bit scary?

Mandy
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